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You have the times reversed. A stock RX8 can hit mid 14's while the Civic Si will be damn lucky to even make it into the 14's. 232 bhp vs 197 160 lbs-ft vs 140 0-60 in 6.2 seconds vs 7.1 seconds I think you're the one talking out of your ass fanboy. BTW name a stock production model 4 door car that posts a faster 'ring lap time than the new CTS-V. PLEASE.

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Wrong....SORTA. Both the Civic and the 8 share very near the same in torque numbers, so their quarter mile times are close since these races are based completly on acceleration. 15.0 to the mazda and 15.1 to the si Stock to stock. However the advantage goes to the Mazda which handily trounces the honda on a road course. Road holding, breaking and lane changes are all better in the mazda. Don't get me wrong its not a perfect car, but it is faster than a civic si.

Yeah the b series trucks are an American market truck only. They may export the truck to other areas where truch sales are high but the truck isnt really a mazda at all. Mazda Cars on the other hand (this inclueds the modified 6 structure that underpins the cx7 and 9 and the ford edge) are developed by mazda. Borrowing rubber hoses and the likes does not mean enough ford boringness has bled into the cars. The RX8 was never meant to be an economy car, just mazdas own uniqe sports car.

LOL. you really should do some research instead of what you hear. stock s2000 hit high 13's on the quarter. The civic Si Low 14's. The Rx-8 in the 15's! LOL. keep talking out your ass MR. "CTS-v is the fastest 4-door". tard....

i have. Dam. it seems as though your pride is overshadowing your judgment there. i know that the the rx-8 is a mazda thing developed by mazda and made soley by mazda. what i am saying is that the minor parts like hoses and other "soft parts" comes from from ford. seriously do you really think that if ford had something to do with it's engineering, do you really think the rx series would have come this far? the rotary engine would have been extinct if ford had taken over over the rx.

The RX8 is extremely reliable and share NO parts with Ford. 99% of the parts come from Japan, and 100% of the RX8 is assembled there as well. Ford owns 33% of Mazda's shares. Thats it. Idk where everyone comes off thinking Ford builds the RX8. And uhhh...the RX8 is every inch of door to door with an S2000 till around 100 mph. Are you saying a Civic Si is as fast as an S2000?

it looks awsome sometimes jeremy doesn't make sense

very powerful indeed...198bhp 4speed for the automatic

Charlie research before you talk buddy